Episode Ten: Bud Is Convinced – He’d Teach American Vandal

In this slightly time-delayed episode, Antero and I find ourselves in the same place (an extra-echo-y enclosed porch – so please enjoy the fun sound) and in a discussion on some of our project-based learning work and its intersection with true crime media. Well. Mostly the true crime. A little bit PBL.

Be prepared that we will absolutely spoil the first season of American Vandal as we discuss whether or not we would teach it and what we think it has to say about current issues in “true crime”, teen culture, power, the “reality” of reality television and of school dynamics.

Oh – if you listen to this episode and decide you’d want to teach American Vandal, then you should get in touch.

Links We Mention

Homework : Read The Future


Episode Nine: When Will Antero Bring the Funny?

In this episode, Antero and I are reunited after a summer apart and we are in catchup mode. We discuss a talk from the Connected Learning Summit back in July, wherein Baratunde Thurston and Joi Ito discuss the role of humor in learning.

We know. Talking about talking about humor. But stick with us, because there’s a role for funny and levity in civil discourse. Or at least we hope there is. And no conversation about humor is complete without thinking about repentance, forgiveness, and current moments and conversation around #metoo.

Bottom line – if you can’t be funny AND kind, you might should try to avoid being funny altogether.

PS – Check out Michelle King’s talk, too, from CLS.  It was also quite good.

Links to Stuff we Mention

Stuff we talked about before we got going that bled into the conversation a little bit


Episode Eight: Libraries are the Civic Hearts of Schools

In this episode, Bud talks with teacher, librarian, and facilitator Tavia Clark. If libraries are, as we believe, the “civic heart of schools,” what does that look like, and how do we build stronger ones?

Tavia mentions collection development, community development and culture development as pieces of the puzzle.

How are you building civic spaces into the hearts of your communities?

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Episode Seven: Debate!

In this week’s episode, we talk with Dr. Nicole Mirra, a frequent collaborator of ours and a professor at Rutgers University, who suggested we spend some time with an episode of Radiolab where we explore the world of debate.

Along the way, we declare a half dozen or so “future episodes.” You should let us know which you want to hear here in the comments.

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We’re still listening to Mall Makers. We promise. Also, we still intend to talk about Starbucks’ implicit bias curriculum. Seriously.


Episode Six: Get Off Our EdTech Lawn!

In this episode, old school edublogger Dean Shareski and I talk about some of our early explorations in online media spaces, then pivot into some of Dean’s recent writing and reflection on his concerns about how we can use social media for exploring opinions and changing minds. Or not. Mostly not, says Dean.

Along the way, we get into how we handle our mistakes in civic discourse, and some suggestions for helping others to explore the way their words in social media might impact others.1

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  1. PS – There are a couple Tab Cola effects in this episode. I’m sorry, and I do not blame my friend Melissa Lim, who shared the greatest browser extension ever with me several months back. I blame myself, as it’s one that I forget to disable sometimes when I’m podcasting. My bad. []

Episode Five: Citizen Science?

In this episode, Antero and I are joined by Joe Polman, a colleague of ours on the Compose Our World project. Joe’s done lots of work around citizen science and journalism. We talk with him about what it means to do that sort of work and why “citizen science” is a complicated term. But first, we explore why everyone’s apologizing for the Internet. We promise it’s related. And relevant.

Also related: Antero only subscribes to cat videos. Which is problematic. For me, at least.

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Episode Four: The Electric Grandmother

The Electric Grandmother

Join us for the exploration of machines and care as commodity. Stick around for the coffee puns.

In this episode, we unpack what the 1982 Project Peacock film The Electric Grandmother has to say about the relationship between computers and care, and how machines may or may not be manipulating us into pretend moments of love. (Then again, sometimes people manipulate us through pretend or unkind emotion, too.)

Are machines that care about you alive? Suppose you believe them to be? Does that matter? What does it mean to be civil to an electric grandmother?

We also start to talk about Starbucks’ day of racial bias training, but put that off for our next episode. Have a peek at their Third Place curriculum and join us for our next episode.

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Episode Three: Let’s Be Nice to Robots

In this week’s episode, Antero and I return to talking about media literacy, though first we side trip through a couple different wolves, get a little distracted by Google’s Duplex, and argue about whether or not we should be kind to robots.

What say you, dear listener?  Should you/could you/shouldn’t you have empathy for the computers that you interact with?  Can you get on board with being kind to robots?

Links We Mention


Episode Two: Antero & the Trolls

In this episode, Antero and I return to the conversation we tried to start a while back around civil discourse on the Internet. We intended to talk about Antero’s recent experiences with an angry Internet community of Dungeons and Dragons fans, and we do, but we took a long detour to discuss Habitat and what it means to play a game of work. And the new Avengers movie.1

We also talk a teeny bit about what it means to take a critical lens to something we love. I hope we’ll talk about that more.

Then we argue about whether or not we can save the Internet’s current spaces or if we have to head off and find new ones. Stay tuned, true believers. There’s ground to cover.

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photo by: Benimoto
  1. Which Antero declares he’s viewed only for “research” purposes. Well played, professor. []

Episode One

In this episode, Diana and Bud talk about her experiences as a teacher and a not teacher, a little bit of Civics 101, and get into why she’d want to have lots of conversations about being “nice.” We also spot check our knowledge of the Constitution. Bud fails. Diana, not so much.

PS – Diana reads lots.


New Times Call for New Civics – Edutopia

Diana’s sleeping blog